'Our Hidden History' Interview with James DiEugenio It's not about the past, it's not even about who killed Kennedy. So again, people who don't do crime for a living and don't study intelligence operations, this just sounds fantastical because it's like, oh my God all I do is I plan what I'm going to buy for groceries this week.
And again, this is a guy with high level military secrets, who not only "defected," but actually verbally offered those secrets up to the Soviets and he comes back like an American hero.
From the creation of the CIA in 1947 to his firing in 1974, Angleton wielded outsized influence.
Three of Angleton's senior aides in counter-intelligence, his deputy Raymond Rocca, executive officer of the counter-intelligence division William J. Angleton didn't want to say it was a lone nut, he wanted to say there was a conspiracy. It's like he had all his expenses taken care of.
They won't jail these people, they won't hold them accountable. I really honestly believe that is how our government is run and I know Nancy Pelosi and other high level people have made comments like we don't dare go up against the CIA, they can destroy you in the media.And the relationship between the CIA and the media I think really explains why we've never gotten the truth about the assassinations of the 60s. In fact the HSCA found out that there were 10 CIA plants in Garrison's office because when you do a big investigation you hire a bunch of people and they have to have a certain kind of background and easy for the CIA to get their people in. Maybe even under a code name.
And that's why I feel we're in serious danger as a country because we pretend to be this democracy, but there's this covert faction that really runs the government from the deep, dark recesses underneath in ways we don't see or control.
Now again, here you are an Embassy officer and you've got this guy saying, "I'm about to commit treason, hey anybody want my treason?"
In other words, maybe in a drunken state they can get some statement from him that they can use as support that it really was Oswald there at the Cuban Embassy. You know, who was head of the CIA and who had likely ordered the murder of President Kennedy.
The story doesn't make any sense at all if Oswald went over there on his own will and did all these crazy things and then manages to get rewarded when he comes home. Indeed, they remained friendly for years after they began living apart, and yearly took a vacation together to his beloved fishing spot.
Again, the public's told nope, Oswald did it, done.
And of course that seemed to be the plan.But while he's there, he's saying very loudly for the microphones that the CIA knew the Soviet Union had installed in the Embassy when it was built, he had something of special interest he wanted to divulge.
So it's like the CIA couldn't be 100% sure that their blackmail would work, but apparently it did because Hoover went along. And he assigns a guy named John Whitten, who is in the files as Scelso, John Scelso, but his real name was Whitten. Upon Graduation from Yale in 1941, Angleton moved to Harvard Law School where he met his future wife Cicely d'Autremont of Duluth, Minnesota.
In other words get him drunk and convince him it was Oswald is kind of the implication.
Or taken from some other date and dressed up, but whatever, it couldn't have happened that way.I also know that the Oswald sighting at the Cuban Consulate also probably didn't happen because the man who was the Cuban Consulate at the time, Eusebio Azcue, had told the HSCA that the guy who had come in did not match the guy who was shot on TV by Jack Ruby. And now I'm going to jump ahead a few years because during the Church Committee hearing Bill Harvey, who had ran counterintelligence and then later moved into running Cuban operations and some of the plots to kill Castro. It usually happens the other way around right?So, obviously the State Department employee is suspicious, and he goes, I'm guessing this is some sort of intelligence operation.
And then now we cut, you know the Warren Commission, the Warren report came out in '64, the end of 1964.
And almost hooked up with him, but then ended up with Oswald, it was like her job was to secure one of these guys. And they were suspicious of that because it just didn't seem to be behaving like a normal person would. For example, Bill Harvey at the head of Staff C, suspected John Philby the, how do I want to say, he was a high level intelligence operative in the UK, who was really a communist agent. They didn't even know he would be president.
A very, what do I want to say, a very creative, independent character who kind of answered to no one.